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Lisa McPherson Files - Interview of Thomas Beilhart

This is an interview with Thomas Beilhart, a co-worker of Lisa McPherson's at AMC Publishing.

FLORIDA OFFENSE/INCIDENT REPORT-SUPPLEMENTAL/CONTINUATION ORIG.              SUPP.
  0 520300 CLEARWATER P.D.                    AGENCY REPORT NO. 95-29158
NAME(S): Lisa McPherson                       ORIG. DATE REPORTED: 12/06/95
INCIDENT:  Death Investigation                VI WILL PROSECUTE: Y X        N
LOCATION:   644 Pierce Street                 PAGE 1     OF 16
INVESTIGATOR: Detective Jorge Carrasquillo

PREV CASE STATUS:        Active
NARRATIVE:
   1   The date is March 12, 1997.      The time is 1445 hours.     This is an interview with
   2   Tom...Thomas Beilhart concerning the Lisa McPherson investigation.  Present during the
   3   interview are Attorney Ron Cacciatore; F.D.L.E. Agent Sharon Feola; and myself Detective
   4   Carrasquillo.
   5   Det. Carrasquillo:  Thomas,  for identification purposes  please   state your personal
   6                       information. I need you to state your name and then spell it, your
   7                       complete legal name, home address, date of birth, social security number,
   8                       home phone number and work telephone number.
   9   Beilhart:           Okay. Thomas, T-H-O-M-A-S, Joseph, J-O-S-E-P-H, Beilhart, B-E-I-L-H-A-
  10                       R-T. The address is 1554 Linwood, L-I-N-W-O-O-D, Drive, Clearwater,
  11                       Florida, ahm, 3-4-6-1-5. Home number is 449-8308. Work number is
  12                       446-1100. My extension is 210. My date of birth is July 25, 1958.
  13   Det. Carrasquillo:  Great. Thank you. What we're gonna do is we're...were gonna talk to
  14                       you about Lisa McPherson. Were gonna get an idea of...of her mental
  15                       frame of mind, background, habit's prior to her death. So I'm basically
  16                       going to tell you why don't you tell me a little bit about Lisa. How you
  17                       met her? Ah...where'd you know her from. How'd you...
  18   Atty. Cacciatore:   Could you do me a favor first and just put on the record that what you
  19                       said off the record, and this is that he was not a target in any way.
  20   Det. Carrasquillo:  Okay. No problem. I told you earlier that you are here as a witness. At
  21                       this point in time you're not a suspect. You're just here as a witness.
  22   T. Beilhart:        Mmmhmm.
  23   Det. Carrasquillo:  Okay? And...and I want you to be aware of that fact. If we develop
  24                       information down the road that it might change I'll let you know
  25                       otherwise. But, as of today you're strictly here as a witness.

SUPPLEMENT/CONTINUATION FL0520300/Clearwater Police Department Report No. 95-29158 Offense: Death Investigation Date of Report: 03/12/97 Page 2 of 16 26 Beilhart: Yes. 27 Det. Carrasquillo: Okay? 28 T. Beilhart: Okay.... 29 Det. Carrasquillo: Now.... 30 Beilhart: So, I met Lisa when I first came on to join AMC Publishing when I first 31 got hired that was in February of 1995. And I...she worked in a different 32 division than what I did. I worked in a list...what I did was I sell...I sold 33 lists. She worked in a different department where she, ah, sold call...call 34 packs, which was...and we didn't really see each other much. We were 35 both in our separate offices working. Ahm, I knew her socially...just to 36 work, ahm, I always thought her was...she was very, very helpful with 37 me since I was a new guy on the...on the job. Id never done really 38 telephone sales before so she helped me out a lot on that area. Never 39 really socialized her with...outside of AMC other then I worked on Winter 40 Wonderland in. ..in, ah, 95, and she was a part of that. And other than 41 that I went to one party and she...it was a Halloween Party in 1995 42 where she...she....she...I saw her there. Ahm, I probably just said hi to 43 her or something like that because I was with a bunch of other friends. 44 Other than when she was not working at AMC I didn't...I didn't see her 45 until she came in, visited, ahm, most...like I would say hi to her and stuff 46 like that, but I didn't ask her how she was doing, or get really involved 47 with her social life or anything like that. Ahm, I was real shocked to hear 48 that she died. I didn't know about that. Also that, ahm, I understand 49 she had a car accident and I didn't know anything about that. 50 Det. Carrasquillo: Okay. 51 Bellhart: Ahm, other than that, I mean, it was just real social at work it was just 52 hi, how is everything going, ahm. 53 Det. Carrasquillo: So. ..so basically you're saying your...your contact with Lisa was at work, 54 and not on a social basis. 55 T. Beilhart: Yes, that's correct. 56 Det. Carrasquillo: Okay, and you said you started working in February of 95?
SUPPLEMENT/CONTINUATION FL0520300/Clearwater Police Department Report No. 95-29158 Offense: Death Investigation Date of Report: 03/12/97 Page 3 of 16 57 Beilhart: Yeah, February of...yeah. 58 Det. Carrasquillo: With the, ah, AMC Publishing. 59 T. Beilhart: that's correct. 60 Det. Carrasquillo: Did you know Lisa prior to that? 61 Beilhart: No. I did not. 62 Det. Carrasquillo: So you didn't come here from Texas? 63 T. Beilhart: No. 64 Det. Carrasquillo: Okay. 65 T. Beilhart: I got hired...I was, ahm, I've been here on and off since 1990...I'm sorry, 66 1984. 67 Det. Carrasquillo: Okay. 68 Agent Feola: Where are you from originally? 69 T. Bejlhart: Virginia. Norfolk, Virginia. 70 Det. Carrasquillo: And you stated you did not work directly with...with Lisa. 71 Beilhart: No, other than, I mean, we had similar clients where one of her clients 72 might wanted to buy a list of agents to do, ah, some seminars so they'd 73 need a list and.... 74 Det. Carrasquillo: Right. 75 Beilhart: Other than that, that was it. 76 Det. Carrasquillo: Okay...how about...how...so I can get an idea, about how many 77 employees are at AMC? 78 Beilhart: When I first started there was probably only about twenty. And now 79 there's probably close to the 30s...that's with the owners. 80 Det. Carrasquillo: So it's a pretty good size business where you wouldn't have daily contact 81 with somebody, or would you bump into each other though out the day. 82 Bellhart: Yeah, I mean, wed definitely see each other. I mean, you know, we 83 had... 84 Any. Cacciatore: Let me interrupt....ah, on the daily, because I want to make sure that 85 my...my, [INAUDIBLE] was it 1995, the owners or what ever they would 86 be called, of the corporation providing a luncheon for everybody.... 87 Beilhart: Yes.
SUPPLEMENT/CONTINUATION FL052O300/Clearwater Police Department Report No. 95-29158 Offense: Death Investigation Date of Report: 03/12/97 Page 4 of 16 88 Any. Cacciatore: ..so people would see each other at lunch. 89 Agent Feola: That was my next question, Ron. 90 Any. Cacciatore: I actually was gonna mention that, too. 91 Det. Carrasquillo: All right. So you were having daily contact at lunch, and you spoke. 92 What did, if you could think back a little bit. What was her frame of 93 mind like July...June, July... 94 T. Beilhart: I couldn't recall. I don't...was...was she currently working at AMC then? 95 Det. Carrasquillo: Yes. 96 T. Beilhart: Okay. Fine, I mean, basically I didn't know, ahm, that was fine... 97 Det. Carrasquillo: Okay. 98 T. Beilhart: I mean, as far as I can think of. I mean, I didn't notice anything.... 99 Det. Carrasquillo: Right. Let me make it more specific. I'm trying to find out did you have 100 any knowledge of her absence from work around July of 95? 101 Beilhart: I know that she was...see this is the time frame, I don't know when 102 she'd left and she....she did come back for a short period and then she 103 left again. That time frame I actually don't know months...you know, 104 what month she was gone... 105 Det. Carrasquillo: Okay. But, she was gone at one time for a short period. She comes 106 back to work.... 107 Beilhart: Yes. 108 Det. Carrasquillo: And then she comes back again. 109 Beilhart: Yeah. 110 Det. Carrasquillo: That would have been the July incident... 111 Beilhart: Okay. 112 Det. Carrasquillo: Or, right around July. 113 Beilhart: As far as I know she was, ah, heading up a new department, ah, selling 114 magazines and she was like going...working diligent...diligently, you 115 know, creating that, ah, that, ah, field...that market for the magazine. 116 Other than that I didn't really, you know.... 117 Det. Carrasquillo: You thought she might still been working out of the house or you didn't 118 know what she was doing...
SUPPLEMENT/CONTINUATION FL0520300/Clearwater Police Department Report No. 95-29158 Offense: Death Investigation Date of Report: 03/12/97 Page 5 of 16 119 T. Beilhart: Yeah, I actually didn't know. 120 Det. Carrasquillo: There was no...there was no mention around the lunch table, you know, 121 that she might have been out, ah, getting some attention and care? 122 Anything like that? 123 Beilhart: Other than I know that she was getting auditing at the church. 124 Det. Carrasquillo: The first time she was gone. 125 Bellhart: Yeah. Other than that I didn't know. I know that she was doing services 126 out at the Church of Scientology and that was it. 127 Det. Carrasquillo: Okay. Services would be what you call auditing? 128 T. Beilhart: Right. 129 Det. Carrasquillo: Okay. What was your last contact Lisa prior to her death? 130 Beilhart: Probably back till when she was back at work at AMC in July. I mean 131 that was probably the only contact I saw her. 132 Det. Carrasquillo: Okay...she came...she was gone like in July, she comes back I think in 133 August. 134 T. Beilhart: Okay. August. 135 Det. Carrasquillo: September and October. 136 T. Beilhart: Okay. 137 Det. Carrasquillo: That time frame... 138 T. Beilhart: Well, I would have seen her at work. 139 Det. Carrasquillo: And how did she appear to you at that time? 140 T. Bellhart: Calm. I didn't notice anything different. 141 Det. Carrasquillo: No problem. She wasn't over talkative, over loquacious. She wasn't, ah, 142 getting real close to people, I mean, when she was talking to them? 143 T. Beilhart: No. 144 Det. Carrasquillo: She seemed absolutely normal to you? 145 T. Beilhart: Yeah. Total... 146 Det. Carrasquillo: Was she complaining of any bruises, any ailment? Any physical ailment? 147 Anything like that? 148 T. Beilhart: Not with me at all. 149 Det. Carrasquillo: Okay. Did you hear anything about her, ah, isolation from November 18,
SUPPLEMENT/CONTINUATION FL05~20300/Clearwater Police Department Report No. 95-29158 Offense: Death Investigation Date of Report: 03/12/97 Page 6 of 16 150 1995 til December 5, 1995? 151 T. Beilhart: No, I didn't know anything about that. 152 Det. Carrasquillo: They didn't give you any explanations at work where she was, why she 153 wasn't coming back to work? 154 Beilhart: All I knew is that she was staying....actually I didn't even know that I. ..I 155 got the, ahm, I think after the death that she was staying at the, ah, Fort 156 Harrison Hotel. 157 Det. Carrasquillo: So you found out after the fact. 158 T. Beilhart: I think so. 159 Det. Carrasquillo: You had mentioned the accident earlier. Did you find that out after the 160 fact also, or before the fact. 161 T. Beilhart: For what? 162 Det. Carrasquillo: The accident. That she was involved in the accident? T. Beilhart: I found that out much later...much later. 163 164 Det. Carrasquillo: Did anyone ever, ah, direct you to write a report about your observations 165 of Lisa? 166 Bellhart: No. 167 Det. Carrasquillo: Okay, so you have...there is no written documentation regarding, with 168 your signature on it in anywhere in Lisa's church records or in AMC 169 employment where there's a report outlining what...how she was acting, 170 how she was behaving? 171 T. Beilhart: Nothing there. 172 Det. Carrasquillo: Did you ever give an oral report to any on her behavior to anyone? 173 Any. Cacciatore: I assume that excludes any conversation that he would have had that 174 would have been protected by the attorney, client privilege. 175 Det. Carrasquillo: Yeah. No, I'm...I'm talking at work, at actually the work environment 176 prior to you coming on board. 177 Any. Cacciatore: Okay. 178 Beilhart: No. 179 Det. Carrasquillo: Did you know or hear any reason why Gloria Cruise was living with Lisa? 180 Beilhart: As far as I knew they were just roommates.
SUPPLEMENT/CONTINUATION FL0520300/Clearwater Police Department Report No. 95-29158 Offense: Death Investigation Date of Report: 03/12/97 Page 7 of 16 181 Det. Carrasquillo: But you knew nothing other than that? 182 Beilhart: No. 183 Det. Carrasquillo: How did you learn about Lisa's death? Or the circumstances surrounding 184 her death? 185 Beilhart: Ahm...they called a meeting at work and, ah, all the employees, ahm, 186 basically met and we, ahm, David Slaughter told everybody at that time 187 what...what, that Lisa passed away. They didn't know the results or 188 anything like that, they just said that Lisa passed away and...last night or 189 whatever time, I can't recall if it was over the weekend or during the 190 week that she passed away, but I think it was Friday morning or Monday 191 morning, whatever that she passed away? 192 Agent Feola: Were you shocked? 193 Beilhart: Oh, yeah. I was. 194 Agent Feola: Do you recall the last time that you saw her prior to that? Do you 195 remember, Tom, around the time of the Nelba Conference in Orlando? 196 Beilhart: Oh, yeah. 197 Agent Feola: Do you remember seeing her there in that week? 198 Beilhart: Oh, yeah, we went together actually. 199 Agent Feola: Did you go to the Nelba Concer...Conference? 200 Beilhart: Uh huh. 201 Agent Feola: Oh, I didn't know that. Who did you attend the conference with? 202 Beilhart: It was, ahm, myself, Lisa...ahm...I think Ray Hemphill. I know that 203 Franz Reiter showed up later. He didn't come with us, but he showed up 204 later. Ahm... 205 Agent Feola: Do you know who he traveled with? 206 Beilhart: No. [INAUDIBLE] But, ahm, me, myself, Craig Burton, Ray Hemphill and 207 Lisa. I think we drove together to the show. 208 Agent Feola: Okay, which show was that? 209 Beilhart: The Nelba. The one in Tampa. 210 Agent Feola: No, this is the one in...yeah... 211 Beilhart: In Tampa.
SUPPLEMENT/CONTINUATION FL0520300/Clearwater Police Department Report No. 95-29158 Offense: Death Investigation Date of Report: 03/12/97 Page 8 of 16 212 Agent Feola: ...this is a different one. This is the one in Orlando. 213 Beilhart: No, I didn't go to that one. 214 Agent Feola: Okay. 215 Det. Carrasquillo: And let me give you specific date to make sure we clarify that... 216 Agent Feola: Do you remember when that was? The one in Tampa? 217 Beilhart: Yeah, it was when I first came on. 218 Agent Feola: Oh, it was way back. 219 Beilhart: Yeah. 220 Agent Feola: Okay. 221 Beilhart: When I first joined the company. 222 Det. Carrasquillo: No, we're talking November 15, 16, 17... 223 Beilhart: Oh, I didn't go to that show...I didn't go to that show. 224 Det. Carrasquillo: Do you know who went to that show? 225 Beilhart: I know that, ahm, Ray...I mean Franz Reiter went to that show. That's 226 about it because he's my, ahm, senior in my department. He's my 227 manager. 228 Agent Feola: In the magazine department? 229 Beilhart: Right. 230 Agent Feola: Okay. 231 Beilhart: Not the magazine, the list department. 232 Agent Feola: Oh, oh...yes, that's right. 233 Beilhart: Which I work at, so I know that he went because basically I was the only 234 one that were working in that...that [INAUDIBLE] at that time. 235 Det. Carrasquillo: How do you spell his last name? 236 Beilhart: R-E-I-T-E-R. 237 Det. Carrasquillo: And he went to one in November, as far as you know. 238 Beilhart: Yes. 239 Det. Carrasquillo: But... 240 Beilhart: But, he went over with the owner. They drove over together. 241 Agent Feola: Bennetta. 242 Det. Carrasquillo: Do you remember what day that was?
SUPPLEMENT/CONTINUATION FL0520300/Clearwater Police Department Report No. 95-29158 Offense: Death Investigation Date of Report: 03/12/97 Page 9 of 16 243 Beilhart: I...I'm terrible with dates. 244 Det. Carrasquillo: Getting back to...to when the...the...David Slaughter called the meeting 245 and told all the employees about Lisa McPherson, do you remember what 246 date that was? 247 Beilhart: I know it was just right after her death. 248 Det. Carrasquillo: The day after? Immediately after? Or, was it a couple days? 249 Beilhart: Well, when was her death? 250 Det. Carrasquillo: The 5th of December. 251 Beilhart: Which...what day is that? 252 Det. Carrasquillo: Do you have a calendar around? 1995? 253 Agent Feola: My doesn't go back that far. 254 Beilhart: You just go back a day though. What was it the 5th of December? 255 Det. Carrasquillo: Mmmhmm. 256 Beilhart: So, it was on a Wednesday. Ahm...I...I don't know. I think it was the 257 same, I mean, the next day or the day following that. 258 Det. Carrasquillo: So it within two days? 259 Beilhart: Yeah, I would think so. 260 Det. Carrasquillo: And did they give any explanation as to what the cause of death was? 261 Beilhart: They didn't know. 262 Det. Carrasquillo: Okay. Let...I'm gonna ask you this and I probably already asked it 263 anyway, did you care for Lisa at all the South Fort Harrison during the 264 18th of November to the 5th of December 1995, or do you have any 265 knowledge of anyone that did? 266 Beilhart: No. 267 Det. Carrasquillo: You never went down to the church, 210 South Fort Harrison? 268 Beilhart: Well, I've been down there. 269 Det. Carrasquillo: Yeah, no...I mean, I'm talking with...between that time frame, November 270 18th - December 5th. 271 Beilhart: November 18th to December 5th. Well, I was working across the street at 272 Winter Wonderland, so I probably went across the street to go to the 273 bathroom.
SUPPLEMENT/CONTINUATION FL0520300/Clearwater Police Department Report No. 95-29158 Offense: Death Investigation Date of Report: 03/12/97 Page 10 of 16 274 Det. Carrasquillo: Okay. And when you went across the street did you happen to bump 275 into Lisa, or see Lisa. 276 Beilhart: Not at all. 277 Det. Carrasquillo: And you don't know of anyone that went down there during that time? 278 Beilhart: No. 279 Det. Carrasquillo: And you did not go specifically to take care of her? 280 Beilhart: That's correct. I did not. 281 Det. Carrasquillo: Okay. Let me ask you this. How long have you been a Scientologist? 282 Beilhart: Since 1980. 283 Det. Carrasquillo: So, are you above clear, or... 284 Beilhart: Clear. 285 Det. Carrasquillo: You're at...you're at clear. Do you know what the introspection run 286 down is? 287 Beilhart: No. 288 Det. Carrasquillo: Never heard of it? 289 Beilhart: I could probably read about it, but I have no reference, no. 290 Det. Carrasquillo: Okay. Did...did you attend Lisa as clear when she went clear? The 291 ceremony? 292 Beilhart: No, but, ahm, when she...they announced at work everybody clapped. 293 But, I didn't go to the Fort Harrison. 294 Det. Carrasquillo: Again, back during the time frame of November 18th til December 5th, did 295 you have an occasion to drive Lisa to her apartment from the Fort 296 Harrison? 297 Beilhart: No. 298 Det. Carrasquillo: Do you know of anyone who drove Lisa from her apartment to the Fort 299 Harrison? 300 Beilhart: No. 301 Det. Carrasquillo: And we talked about the accident, you had no knowledge of her accident 302 until after. 303 Beilhart: That's correct. 304 Det. Carrasquillo: And now we're talking about the Nelba, ah, in Orlando.
SUPPLEMENT/CONTINUATION FLOS2O300/Clearwater Police Department Report No. 95-29158 Offense: Death Investigation Date of Report: 03/12/97 Page 11 of 16 305 Beilhart: Right. Okay. 306 Det. Carrasquillo: Did you have any contact with Lisa upon her return from that 307 convention? 308 Beilhart: Not that I can recall, no. Ahm, the only contact I think I did was I took 309 boxes out of her Jeep. She had, ahm, promotional pieces. And I took 310 some of the pieces out and put them in the office. 311 Agent Feola: You need to be real specific about that time. Was that when she got 312 back from Orlando? 313 Beilhart: Yes. 314 Agent Feola: Let me ask you this. Do you know of anyone, any individual who may 315 have borrowed her car while she was in Orlando? Or, did she drive? 316 Beilhart: I still don't know. All I know is that, ahm, I was working and then on, 317 ahm, I forgot who asked me to get some boxes out of Lisa's car. 318 Agent Feola: Was Sol Spencer there with you that day do you remember? 319 Beilhart: Yes, he was there at the time, yeah. 320 Agent Feola: Were they boxes about the convention type stuff.... 321 Beilhart: Yeah. They were... 322 Agent Feola: ...insurance brochures, or what ever. 323 Beilhart: Yeah. Yeah. Basic with, you know, what we can offer, the products, 324 and stuff like that. 325 Agent Feola: So... 326 Beilhart: And.... 327 Agent Feola: ...she in fact had her car in Orlando that week? 328 Beilhart: I have...all I know, I don't know. I don't know her went there or not. I 329 just know they...there was boxes in the back. 330 Det. Carrasquillo: Okay, but do you remember what day that was that it was... 331 Beilhart: It should have been right after the convention. So probably a Monday. 332 Agent Feola: Friday...does that ring a bell? 333 Beilhart: No. I thought...wouldn't it be the convention over the weekend... 334 Agent Feola: No, it was... 335 Det. Carrasquillo: She came back Friday.
SUPPLEMENT/CONTINUATION FL0520300/Clearwater Police Department Report No. 95-29158 Offense: Death Investigation Date of Report: 03/12/97 Page 12 of 16 336 Agent Feola: They left Wednesday and came back Friday. 337 Beilhart: Okay. 338 Agent Feola: And then Craig and them came back Saturday. 339 Beilhart: Okay. 340 Agent Feola: She came back a day early with Brenda. Do you remember seeing 341 Brenda there with her? 342 Beilhart: No. 343 Agent Feola: Okay. 344 Beilhart: Like I said, I was in the office and they just say, you know, they said, 345 Hey, I need some help. I forgot who it was. It could have been Sol. 346 Can you help me pull some boxes. And I said, Sure, and I did that 347 and then I went back to work. 348 Agent Feola: Okay. 349 Beilhart: I don't.. .I can't recall if it was Lisa or Brenda [INAUDIBLE] 350 Agent Feola: Okay. 351 Det. Carrasquillo: So from your, ahm, statements so far you...you don't recall ever seeing 352 Lisa suffer from any, ah, emotional problem? 353 Beilhart: Not at all. 354 Det. Carrasquillo: What kind of person would you say she is? Or, was? 355 Beilhart: She was always really helpful to me. And she was like always, if I had, 356 ahm, how would I say....ahm, difficulty in, ahm, in the...with my job, in 357 telemarket... telemarketing, because I'd never done anything like that 358 before, ahm, maybe at lunch time I would mention or something, God, 359 I'm having a hard time with this, buh, buh, buh, buh, you know. She 360 would say what would....look at this [INAUDIBLE] and was a big helpful 361 to me. But, yeah, that would...that would handle that, you know, and 362 that would, you know. Other than that, that was about it. I mean, she 363 was really very, very helpful for me and I...I like, and liked her and I loved 364 her really because she, more than anybody else, really had an outgoing 365 personality to really help. 366 Det. Carrasquillo: Right. Did you get a chance to talk to her Friday before, I'm sorry,
SUPPLEMENT/CONTINUATION FL0520300/Clearwater Police Department Report No. 95-29158 Offense: Death Investigation Date of Report: 03/12/97 Page 13 of 16 367 Wednesday before she left for the convention? 368 Beilhart: I wouldn't have, no, I don't know. I don't think so. If she was in the 369 office I might have said hi. Other than that, no. I mean it wasn't much. 370 Det. Carrasquillo: What's your understanding of...of the circumstances surrounding her 371 death, now. 372 Beilhart: What I read in the paper. Basically, it's, ah, of...actually read that she 373 had an accident through the paper...a car accident and, ah, it was 374 like...and I knew that she had...she...when she died it was...everybody 375 wondered, ah, David Slaughter announced that passed away. And it 376 wasn't really...I think it was a shock for everybody. It was a shock for 377 me. It was like, WOW, totally out of the blue. I didn't even know she 378 was staying at the Fort Harrison, to tell you the truth. 379 Det. Carrasquillo: Okay. And you didn't go down to, ah, Texas for the service? 380 Beilhart: No. 381 Det. Carrasquillo: But, you did go to the one in Clear. ..ah, Fort Harrison? 382 Beilhart: Yes. 383 Agent Feola: Ah, a couple of questions, Tom. Ah, the Halloween party that you went 384 to, October...it was in October of 1995 and you saw Lisa there on a 385 social...did you notice any odd or unusual behavior exhibited by her on... 386 Beilhart: I don't know. 387 Agent Feola: She was just her old normal self. 388 Beilhart: Yeah, I might have saw, you know, yeah, she was just real nice, happy. 389 Agent Feola: Okay. And you said that you were participating that year on the Winter 390 Wonderland project? 391 Beilhart: That's true. 392 Agent Feola: Did you participate or help in any fashion of obtaining or the, ahm... 393 Det. Carrasquillo: Post... 394 Agent Feola: ...props, or did you... 395 Beilhart: Yeah, I worked on everything basically. Whatever they needed me to do 396 I helped build and.... 397 Agent Feola: Do you recall a Saturday, perhaps, that maybe you spent at the
SUPPLEMENT/CONTINUATION FL0520300/Clearwater Police Department Report No. 95-29158 Offense: Death Investigation Date of Report: 03/12/97 Page 14 of 16 398 warehouse on Jeffords, painting some of the props and, you know, 399 freshening up some of the stuff from the year before? 400 Beilhart: I spent some time at the warehouse, ahm, I'm trying to recall if Lisa was 401 there.... 402 Agent Feola: Do you recall any days that Lisa was there with you? I know she was 403 really active in trying to raise money for it... 404 Beilhart: Right. 405 Agent Feola: ...and get donations. 406 Beilhart: Ahm, she was more like working towards that end, not so much well, 407 what...what I realize as physical work. 408 Agent Feola: Okay, do you recall ever being at the warehouse with Brenda, Katie, and 409 Bennetta working and painting on some of the... 410 Beilhart: I was with Bennetta one time and we were....I remember doing the big, 411 ahm, tarp, putting the tarp together. I can't recall...there was a bunch of 412 people there at that time with the tarp at that time. But, ah, I can't recall 413 exactly if Brenda was there. Katie I assume...ah, Katie was there on and 414 off... 415 Agent Feola: Popped in and out. Right? 416 Beilhart: Yeah. Ahm....she might have been. I don't know though. 417 Agent Feola: Okay. I just thought maybe if you knew that. 418 Beilhart: Yeah. No. 419 Agent Feola: Ahm...ahm...your attorney asked about the lunch, having... 420 Beilhart: Oh, yeah, we had...that was... 421 Agent Feola: That was during the time that you had a cook, I understand. 422 Beilhart: Yeah, that was....that was better. 423 Agent Feola: I think it was Michelle Smith. Was the cook... 424 Beilhart: No, the first person...the first cook was, ahm, was, ahm....the blonde 425 hair girl. I forget... 426 Atty. Cacciatore: Kerns. 427 Beilhart: Yes...Peggy Kerns. 428 Agent Feola: Oh, Peggy.
SUPPLEMENT/CONTINUATION FL0520300/Clearwater Police Department Report No. 95-29158 Offense: Death Investigation Date of Report: 03/12/97 Page 15 of 16 429 Beilhart: Peggy Kerns. 430 Agent Feola: Oh, okay. 431 Beilhart: She was the first...she was the cook when I came aboard and then, ahm, 432 Michelle Smith became a cook, but I don't think Lisa was there when 433 Michelle was cooking, I'm not sure when the...when the I started doing 434 that. 435 Agent Feola: I don't have any other questions, Jorge. 436 Det. Carrasquillo: I have one, though. How many of your current employees are 437 Scientologist, that work with you? 438 Beilhart: As far as I know, everybody. 439 Det. Carrasquillo: Everybody at your office is Scientologist. 440 Beilhart: Yeah. 441 Det. Carrasquillo: Or part Scientologist. 442 Beilhart: Yeah. 443 Det. Carrasquillo: Okay. 444 Agent Feola: Have they been, since you were hired February 1995, or do you know of 445 any time, Tommy, that there was someone employed there who was 446 non-Scientologist? 447 Beilhart: Ah, yeah, I'm sure they were. 448 Agent Feola: Prior to... 449 Beilhart: Yes. 450 Agent Feola: Okay. 451 Beilhart: There's been non-Scientologist there. 452 Agent Feola: Okay. 453 Det. Carrasquillo: Prior to your arrival..95. 454 Beilhart: Oh, prior, I don't know because I didn't know. No. I don't know. 455 Det. Carrasquillo: And since 95 there were some? 456 Beilhart: Yes. 457 Det. Carrasquillo: Okay. But today they're.. .they're all Scientologist. To your knowledge. 458 Beilhart: Yeah. It's not really brought up to tell you the truth. 459 Det. Carrasquillo: No problem. Okay. I have no additional questions and you're done with
SUPPLEMENT/CONTINUATION FL0520300/Clearwater Police Department Report No. 95-29158 Offense: Death Investigation Date of Report: 03/12/97 Page 16 of 16 460 questions. Well go ahead and terminate this interview at 1507 hours. OFC. REPORTING:_________________ ID NO:____ DATE: CASE STATUS: _____ EXCEPTION TYPE: _______ DATE CLEARED:______ CLEARANCE TYPE _____ I. Extradition Declined I. Arrest 2. AR of Prim. Offense, Secondary Offense. w/o Pros. Adult ___Juv ___ 3. Death of Offender 5. Prosecution Decl 2. Exceptional 4. V/W Refused to Cooperate 6. Juv./No Custody 3. Unfounded OFC. REVIEWING:__________________ DATE:_4-4-97_ SA INFO: _____